This is our strength, our ability to constantly rebuild no matter what happens.

But the Lebanese don't want to just rebuild so that it can be destroyed again.

They want to live.

Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast.

Here you'll find extended versions of the interviews from my show on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer.

And today is all about what's next for Lebanon, a country already on the brink of economic

crisis, now reeling from a massive explosion in its capital city.

This week as renewed protests forced the prime minister and his cabinet to resign, I spoke to

journalist and Beirut native Kim Gattis about the city's devastation and its people's rage.

Let's get to it.

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And I'm here with Kim Gattas. She's a Beirut-based journalist, a non-resident senior fellow with Carnegie Endowment.

It was with the BBC for some 20 years. Great to be with you, Kim.

Thanks for having me, Ian.

Where were you? What were you doing? How did you respond when this extraordinary explosion hit your city?

You know, it was an extraordinary day, Ian, one that none of us really

are able to quite comprehend. We've seen the pictures again. We've read the news about our own city,

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