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Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

Rafael Devers to the Giants in a Blockbuster & Shohei Ohtani Is Ready to Pitch Again

Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

The Athletic

Baseball, Sports

4.9746 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Baggarly joins Eno and DVR to discuss the blockbuster trade that sent Rafael Devers to the Giants in a stunning five-player swap Sunday, the Giants' increasing commitment at a group of four position players, and the rising importance of Bryce Eldridge's development as a defender.Plus, Eno shares a few comps for Kyle Harrison, and they wonder how the Red Sox might attempt to reallocate the money they no longer have to pay Devers, before discussing Shohei Ohtani's return to pitching and where the money went in fantasy baseball leagues this weekend.


Rundown

0:28 The Giants Acquire Rafael Devers in Five-Player Deal with Red Sox

0:55 How Much Better Are the Giants w/Devers?

3:04 Have We Overestimated the Difference Between Buster Posey & Farhan Zaidi?

7:02 Becoming Less Risk-Averse

9:56 Other Moves on the Horizon?

14:44 More Importance on Bryce Eldrige's Defensive Development

22:24 Devers' Fit at Oracle Park

29:18 A Step Backward to Hopefully Take a Step Forward?

34:11 Kyle Harrison's Long-Term Outlook

38:10 Shohei Ohtani is Ready to Pitch in Games Again

44:27 Jackson Merrill to the Concussion IL & More Injury Notes

58:54 Where the Money Went: Father's Day Weekend 2025 Edition


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Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris

With: Andrew Baggarly

Producer: Brian Smith

Executive Producer: Derek VanRiper


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Rates and barrels. It is Monday, June 16th.

0:15.2

Derek Van Riper, Enoceris here with you, and we've got a guest right off the top. Senior

0:19.9

writer covering the Giants

0:21.0

for the Athletic. Andrew Baggerly is here because the Giants acquired Raphael Devers on Sunday.

0:28.0

Words that I did not expect to say out loud in year two of a 10-year contract extension for Devers.

0:35.2

But here we are. Andrew, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, sure. Great

0:39.1

to be on with you. It ends up being a five-player swap. Kyle Harrison, Jordan Hicks, James Tibbs

0:44.3

the 3rd, the Giants first rounder from last summer, and Jose Bayo, all going back to Boston.

0:49.4

But the first question I have for you is, how much better are the Giants today on Monday than they were just 24

0:55.8

hours ago with the addition of Devers?

0:58.0

Well, I think they're quite a bit better and they really think they're going to be better

1:01.0

after Matt Chapman comes back from a sprained hand, which they think is going to be, you know,

1:05.0

shortly before the All-Star break.

1:06.8

They have a position player core that is just absolutely locked in now.

1:10.8

I mean, they're taking on eight and a half years of Devers as contracted more than They have a position player core that is just absolutely locked in now.

1:14.1

I mean, they're taking on eight and a half years of Deversus's contract at more than $250 million, a little of it deferred.

1:17.8

But then you stack that on the $151 million six-year deal

1:22.0

that just gave to Matt Chapman last September.

1:24.6

The 182 million seven-year deal they gave to Willie Adamas in the offseason,

1:29.8

which at the time was the biggest guarantee they made to one player.

1:33.6

Obviously Devers is an even bigger one.

1:35.9

All of a sudden, you know, this is a group that's going to be together for a long time.

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