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Radio Free Mormon

Radio Free Mormon: 179: The Illusion of Agency

Radio Free Mormon

Mormon Discussion Inc

Religion & Spirituality

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

How do LDS Church leaders get the members to do what they are told, while at the same time telling them they are free to choose? RFM digs into the heart of this fascinating subject!

Transcript

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And the Testing one, two three, testing one, two one two three this is radio free Mormon on the air

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broadcasting behind enemy lines tonight's episode the illusion of agency.

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In the LDS Church, the doctrine, the fundamental principle of agency or the freedom to choose

0:39.6

is at the heart of Mormonism.

0:42.0

Mormonism teaches that all of mankind existed

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pre-mortemly in the spirit world,

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and that not only did they exist pre-mortemly,

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but that they were present at a grand council in heaven before they came to

0:56.1

this earth.

0:57.1

And in that grand council, Heavenly Father put forth his plan as to how mankind could be saved. His plan required a savior, a

1:05.3

redeemer, one to come to this earth and make an atonement, and Jesus Christ

1:10.5

came forward and volunteered for the job.

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Lucifer, on the other hand, came forward with a different plan.

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What he argued was a better plan.

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But God said, no, we're not gonna do Lucifer's plan.

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We're not gonna go that route because that plan would deprive

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mankind of their freedom to choose. It would deprive humanity of their agency. And a third of the

1:31.3

host of heaven sided with Satan, and two-thirds sided with God and Jesus.

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And there was a great war in heaven.

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This is the Mormon story about the Grand Council in heaven and the War in Heaven which was fought over the

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principle of agency. Now what with Lucifer and his side being outnumbered two to one I

1:50.4

guess the outcome was pretty much a foregone conclusion and Lucifer and his

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