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Rachel Reeves turns into the 'concrete Chancellor'

The Rundown by PoliticsHome

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4.1105 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

To discuss the fallout from this week’s Spring Statement, after Rachel Reeves confirmed a host of cuts to benefit payments and a squeeze on public spending to offset a downgrade in the country’s growth forecast, John Glen, Tory MP and a former Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Helen Barnard, Director of Policy at the Trussell charity, Greg Thwaites, Research Director at the Resolution Foundation think tank, and Chris Curtis, Labour MP and Vice-Chair of the Labour Growth Group, join host Alain Tolhurst. As the question already turns to whether further tax rises will be needed as soon as this year, some Labour backbenchers fume about the optics of the government appearing to balance the books on the backs of some of the poorest in society due to self-imposed fiscal rules, while others have questioned the role of the OBR in guiding the Treasury’s hand every six months.



Presented by Alain Tolhurst, produced by Nick Hilton and edited by Ewan Cameron for Podot

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home with me Alan Tolhurst.

0:10.1

In this episode, we'll look at the fallout from this week's spring statement.

0:13.6

After Rachel Reeves confirmed a host of cuts to benefit payments and a squeeze on public spending

0:17.5

to offset a downgrade in the country's growth forecast, following a rocky

0:21.1

few months of the UK economy since the Chancellor's big tax racing budget last autumn. But the

0:26.0

question has already turned to whether further tax rises will be needed as soon as this year,

0:29.7

as global forces, including the threats of further tariffs from Donald Trump's White House,

0:33.7

will continue to choke off any recovery. But while Reeves argues, without such fiscal prudence,

0:38.7

Britain would have landed further in the fiscal mire, some labour-back benches fume about the optics

0:43.1

of a government appearing to balance the books on the backs of some of the poorest in society

0:46.6

due to their own self-imposed fiscal rules. To discuss all that and renewed questions over the role

0:52.2

of the OBR in guiding the Treasury's hand every six months, I'm delighted to be joined by today's panel. With me as John Glenn, former

0:58.1

Chief Secretary to the Treasury, who now sits on the Treasury Select Committee, Helen Barnard,

1:02.6

Director of Policy, Research and Impact at the Trussle charity, Greg Thwaites, research director

1:07.7

at the Resolution Foundation think tank, and Chris Curtis, Labour MP for Milton Keynes North,

1:12.4

and the vice chair at the Labour Growth Group of MPs.

1:18.1

So Greg, I'm going to start with you. Can you just explain what it was the Chancellor announced yesterday

1:21.6

and why we kind of had a spring statement? We had a spring statement because the government

1:25.6

has set themselves some fiscal rules and twice a year, the Office of Budget Responsibility, makes forecasts about whether those fiscal rules are going to be met.

1:35.7

The latest forecast was that the fiscal rule was going to be broken. That's mostly because interest rates have gone up and the government's interest bill has gone up.

1:43.3

And that blew

1:44.3

through all of the headroom, the space that the chancellor had set herself over and above her

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