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We are nearing two decades of this show.

And as I've been looking and listening back to Ponder and to celebrate, the conversation

of this hour always rises as an early experience that imprinted everything that came after.

The physician, Rachel Naomi Remmon, is one of the wise people in our world.

She trained as a doctor in a generation that understood death as a failure of medicine.

Yet her lifelong struggle with Crohn's disease and her pioneering work with cancer patients

shaped her view of life and medicine.

With advantage points on the brilliance and the boundaries of science, she embodies a

message I have heard in some key from every wise and graceful life I've been privileged

to draw out.

Living well, becoming whole, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses.

In fact, she says, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be

present to all of our experiences.

That arresting notion and the distinction Rachel Naomi Remmon draws between curing and healing

makes this an urgent offering to our world, the healing we are all called to receive and

to give even in a universe of loss.

I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being.

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