Hi, this is Monica Packer. What you're about to hear is a session from my five-day online event going on right now,

The More for Mom's Conference. This event is for the mom who is ready for more in her happiness,

habits, health, home, and hobbies. Audio versions of each speaker session will only be available

on the public about progress feed through Sunday, October 12th. For ad-free video and

audio versions of all content, be sure to sign up for the basic or all-access pass before the

conference ends on October 12th. You can do so at aboutprogress.com slash more for moms. Now

on to our special session.

Thank you. on to our special session. Rachel Coons, a warm welcome to the Moore for Mom's Conference.

It's so great to have you here.

So happy to be here.

So you have saved me a lot of money.

A ton of money.

Over the last 18 months that I've used your tips to save money on groceries.

But the thing I keep thinking about you is how your take on money is different than most people in the budgeting space.

Where, well, actually, how about you tell us? What does that feel normally

like? Like, what are people's relationship with money tend to be like when you're learning from

experts and the people in the space who want to learn how to budget too? Yeah, I would say that there's

quite a few differences between me and the budgeting space. And I actually like sometimes really

hate even being wrapped up in that space because of the connotations that can come from it. And, you know, it comes from my own experiences. But I've heard this from a lot of other moms as well. When you jump into a budgeting world, it's a lot of it is masculine energy of spreadsheets, numbers, restriction,

scarcity, those types of things. Like, you have to budget because there's not enough money,

or you are spending hours tracking spreadsheets and feeling bad about the money that you're

spending. And so I just want to completely rewrite that

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