Pushkin.

The day of their deaths, January 2, 1981, Verna and Doug's bodies were flown by helicopter

back to the mainland.

The next day they were autopsyed by the acting medical examiner of Ventura County, Dr. Craig

Duncan.

Hi Dr. Duncan, Dana Griguer, nice to meet you.

I met Dr. Duncan recently at his home in Ventura, which is full of California oil paintings

and human skulls.

He's a psychiatrist now and wears a big, opal ring, but back in 1981, he was a forensic pathologist.

He graduated from medical school in 1969.

Then I went to Baltimore to complete my training under Russell Fisher, who was really the grandfather

of forensic pathology or a major figure.

He saw the case of Verna and Doug as uncomplicated.

It's a standard autopsy of a standard drowning case and handled in that fashion with a fairly

fresh bodies and obvious drowning results.

There was clearly evidence of water drowning, lungs being full of water.

I had the autopsy reports with me and we went through them together.

It didn't take long.

Very little on Douglass' body in terms of external markings.

See, no trauma.

Very little evidence of any trauma at all on Berna's body.

Same with Douglass.

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