This is a Global Player Original podcast.

Welcome to this episode.

It's our little podcasting bit on the side.

Very excited, Polly and I to have Back in the House.

She is a presenter on LBC.

She does incredible focus groups

on mental health in schools.

She is the author of Toxic.

It is.

Natasha Devon.

She's back.

Thanks for having me back.

To talk misogyny online and protecting our teens in the wake of, I mean, hateful misogynist Andrew Tate being banned from social media.

Welcome, Natasha.

So you were on air on Saturday, is that right? Discussing this.

Yeah. And what I didn't expect was to have two or three calls in a row from young men who were defending Andrew Tate saying that he had taught them how to be a man in 2022.

And what struck me most was they were discussing a time before they were born, before their fathers were born, possibly even before their grandfathers were born.

You know, the 1940s, 1950s, with this rose-tinted nostalgia talking about how women were happier when gender roles

were more traditional, when men were the providers and women were the nurturers.

And it struck me that what Andrew Tate and his ilk have been able to do is to take this time

where,

first of all, very few people remember it,

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