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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: The F Words of Politics: Fascism and Freedom

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the full episode "Beating Republicans at Their Own Game: With Rachel Bitecofer."

Michael Steele speaks with Rachel Bitecofer, author of "HIT ‘EM WHERE IT HURTS: How to Save Democracy by Beating Republicans at Their Own Game." The pair discuss what helped Democrats in the midterms in 2022, the art of branding "freedom" and how Dems can incorporate stronger, emotional messaging to win in 2024.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele podcast.

0:13.7

Check out what's going on right now.

0:16.3

Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steele podcast.

0:19.1

We are having a lot of fun with my friend Rachel Bittic, the author of the new book, Hit Him Where It Hurts, and she does. Yes, she hits him where it hurts.

0:30.0

Oh yeah, when they go low, Michael. Yeah, as I heard you say... When they go low, you got to hit him.

0:35.0

That's what I say, as I heard you say recently when they go low, hit him.

0:38.0

Oh, snap, okay, is that going out?

0:44.8

Yeah, I say thanks for the,

0:46.8

thanks for you.

0:48.4

So let's talk about communication,

0:50.4

because a big part of what ails the Democrats and Republicans are very good at is

0:59.4

communicating a message. We're very good at communicating a

1:05.0

negative message.

1:07.0

Democrats are very or at communicating a hopeful message.

1:11.0

And that's a sad thing to say in many respects, because I think it really speaks to what the consumer actually will consume. And you see it not just played out in how people respond to news and information, you know, the whole idea if it bleeds it leads right and so people tend to want to see the car crash they they want to see the gory details but the media and social media platforms also play in that space where they are much more

1:51.2

interested in telling the story of the underbelly of a thing

1:56.9

than telling the story the sun that shines on that very thing.

2:01.4

How did the communications of the two parties

2:04.9

affect how voters approach and are approaching

2:08.6

this upcoming election?

2:11.1

Definitely it's a good question, right? I mean, I think we've never really seen

2:15.0

Denver, I mean, in 22 we saw some some specific races run in a posture, the

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