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I am honored to have presidential candidate Marian Williamson here with us in the house as we like to say, having a conversation and we were before we went to break we were talking about the infrastructure and and sort of the politics now want to move us a little bit into the policy side of the equation because we don't as a country have those conversations anymore and I think you were making a very important point before we went to break about why that's important inside of a primary process among competing interests and competing candidates for the nomination, which the structures don't necessarily want to have happen. You've laid out in your campaign,

the, what you call an economic bill of rights.

And I'm going to tick off a couple so folks get a sense of where where you are focusing you talk about the right to a job that pays a living wage the right to a voice in the workplace through a union and collective bargaining, the right to universal quality health care, the right to a cost-free higher education, the right to good affordable housing, the right to a clean environment and healthy

planet, the right to a meaningful endowment of resources at birth, the right to sound banking and financial services, the right to an equitable

and fair justice system, the right to cultural and civic involvement in democratic life.

All of that, broadly speaking, is sound solid.

I think every American would go,

yeah, that makes sense.

Of course you and I know the devil is always in the details.

How do we do that?

How do we reconcile that the idea of the idea of creating a right that pays a living wage

when you have this this sort of capitalist mindset versus, you know, all the other pieces that go into to making that system work the way it does where you have those who control the

capital versus those who want access to it. Talk to us about how you see doing this as president with a Republican House that stands largely in

opposition to everything I just mentioned. This iteration because my kind of

Republicanism we can find work together space here. A number of these things, right? I am not an anti-union Republican for example so I get it I am you know certainly I did my

battle in universal health care,

for example, and lost that battle.

So the question now is how do we make it work for everybody?

So let's talk about that.

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