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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Questioning claims about Covid and children

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

How likely are children to end up in hospital because of Covid? And how many have died? We scrutinise some scary stats that have been circulating on social and examine what excess deaths figures tell us about the risks of Covid compared to other illnesses. Plus, with the gift of hindsight, we examine the joys and sorrows of modelling the spread of the virus. Do MPs understand how false positive rates work? And we unwrap the mystery of the nanomoles.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts

0:05.3

Hello and welcome to More or Less, the show that sweeps the curling stone of truth into

0:10.5

the House of Public Understanding whilst only occasionally falling face-first onto the

0:15.0

ice. This week, as we continue to wait for updates to the UK's policy on vaccinating

0:21.0

children against Covid, how big are the risks to children from the virus? We examine the

0:27.0

joys and sorrows of the attempts to forecast the spread of the virus using mathematical

0:31.8

modelling. MPs have been trying to solve simple probability questions, and not all of them

0:37.6

have got the answers right. And speaking of not getting the answers right, the correction

0:45.3

claxon is back as we eat humble pie over an error that may be both our smallest and

0:50.8

biggest ever mistake. But first, the Covid pandemic has required some difficult balancing acts,

1:00.2

weighing the risks and benefits of different courses of action, hopefully based on the

1:04.4

very best data. The challenge has been especially fraught in the case of children. Should they

1:10.1

be kept out of school? Should they wear face masks? Should they be vaccinated? How much

1:15.3

of a risk is Covid to them anyway? A recent claim catching attention online suggests

1:20.7

one answer to that last question. One in 100 children who catch Covid-19 get sick

1:26.5

enough with the disease to be admitted to hospital. This statistic seems to have come from data

1:31.8

published by a campaigning charity called Long Covid Kids. It's appeared in various places

1:37.5

including a video published by NHS England. We can't play you the original clip because

1:43.8

soon after it was published, it was taken down. But you know how social media works,

1:49.2

we read, like, retweet, the claim spread. And so did the rebuttals. I've been speaking

1:56.0

to Dr. Shamez Ladani, a pediatric infectious diseases consultant at St George's Hospital

2:01.5

London who's been leading on a number of surveillance programmes on Covid in children

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