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Max Lacer joins us from Doha ahead of this Friday's World Cup draw, ahead of the start of the tournament in November and the theme of

today's podcast will be the criticism over the decision to stage the World Cup

in Qatar because of concerns over the country's human rights record. Later on in the pod, we'll hear the thoughts of FIFA President Gianni Infantino on those concerns.

We'll also get reaction from the organisation Human Rights Watch.

The England Captain Harry Kaye says he wants to shine a light on issues

around Qatar but how effective is activism from players on off-field issues.

Jonas Bear Hoffman is General Secretary of Feeve Pro, the Global Football Players Union and joins us now from Doha.

So Jonas, first of all, what have you been doing?

Who have you been seeing and talking to in Doha?

Well, we've had today a conference together with the International Trade Union

of Construction Workers, who we've been partnering with for some years now to work on the migrant workers,

labor rights in the country and of course the overall human rights situation.

So we've been attending some meetings here and we've had meetings over the last few days

with the with some of the workers representatives the community leaders from the different international workers communities and yeah we're trying to just amplify and support these efforts to keep pushing forward.

Work remains to be done in many parts of the country.

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