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🗓️ 12 November 2018
⏱️ 53 minutes
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0:00.0 | Music |
0:10.0 | Question and response time. Here we go. Here we go. Okay, Q&R, let's get into this. We're doing questions from the God series and |
0:20.0 | we'll start with questions that are more to the discussion in the last few episodes. |
0:26.0 | The episodes which are mainly about God's attributes, about the God's attributes becoming kind of characters and themselves and then |
0:34.0 | and then talking about the Son of Man and Jesus. Yes, specifically, yeah, Son of Man and the depiction of Jesus's divine identity. Jesus as a part of the divine identity in the gospels. Yeah. |
0:46.0 | So good. All right. First question is from Evan Davis from Suwani. Suwani? Suwani? Suwani, Georgia? Suwani, Georgia? Evan, so sorry. Your question is really good one now. |
1:02.0 | Hey, John and Tim, this is Evan from Suwani, Georgia, just north of Atlanta. You've talked about the wisdom, glory, word, and spirit of God and how the biblical offers treat them as Yahweh but also distinct from Yahweh. |
1:14.0 | Similarly, the angel of Yahweh is also written about in the same way. Turnitarian suggests God is three persons in one essence. Yet we see these four additional attributes and the angel of Yahweh treated in a similar manner. |
1:26.0 | So my question is how did the biblical authors treat the father, son, spirit differently that would lead to the turnitarian viewpoint versus a multifaceted God who is more than just a triune Godhead? Look forward to the answer. Thanks, guys. |
1:40.0 | Evan, this is a great question. I wanted to let everybody hear it and for John and I to talk about it because it's a good chance for he and I to kind of summarize what we've been talking about in the last few episodes. |
1:53.0 | So you're right. In the flow of the whole conversation, we tracked with the Hebrew Bible's portrait of God's complex unity and specifically the attributes of God. |
2:04.0 | So we had the same kind of instinct. I was like, oh, okay, maybe the Trinity's embedded in the Old Testament in some way. And so there's some one-to-one correlation between all these manifestations of God. |
2:15.0 | So I'm like counting and I'm trying to like how many attributes and maybe the word is Jesus and spirit of spirit. |
2:22.0 | Yeah, that's one of the wrong. Spirit of spirit. Jesus gets all these attributes. Okay, so maybe all the attributes are Jesus. |
2:30.0 | But then the angel of Yahweh, what is he? Is he a pre-incarnage? |
2:35.0 | So then it's like trying to like put all these puzzle pieces together and create it into some sort of mental map fell apart. |
2:43.0 | It did. For me. It does. |
2:45.0 | It does. Even in our video, we had to be really careful because we kind of highlighted three complexities in the Old Testament of God's identity. |
2:54.0 | And we weren't trying to map those directly onto Father's unspearate because that's my inclination is just trying to make it into a meal system. |
3:01.0 | That's right. So and also remember, you know, the Bible didn't drop down static from the heavens all at once. |
3:09.0 | This literature came into existence within a story, within a development. |
3:15.0 | And so we need to respect the Hebrew Bible's portrait of God as distinct and offering its own word and its offering its own word centuries before Jesus comes onto the scene. |
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