Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better writer.

I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story that works.

Joining me shortly as Sean Coyne, he is the creator of Story Grid, the author of the book Story Grid, and an editor with over 25 years experience.

In this episode, we are continuing to do the Q&A. So a few weeks ago, I took some questions

via Twitter and Facebook, and I am just peppering Sean with those questions. So for me,

it's been a lot of fun to just kind of hit him with a bunch of random questions

and hear his feedback, and I think you'll enjoy it as well. So let's jump in and get started.

Okay, Sean, so last week we did our very first Q&A episode. Again, I was surprised we had never

done this before.

And so we've had even more questions come in.

So we added to the list that we didn't even get close to completing last week.

But we're just going to jump right in and get started.

So here's one.

What are the values at stake for nonfiction?

Oh, that's a great question.

Well, the big value at stake for nonfiction is it's knowledge, right?

It's a revelation plot.

So in revelation plots, the value is unknowingness to knowledge. So, or wisdom. I'm trying to pull up from my brain sort of the four major, you know, points of the knowledge value. But I'm going to just take a

stab at it here. The negation of the negation, meaning like the most negative value of knowledge,

is believing something to be true that is false, right? So if we believe something to be a

truth that is not true, that is the worst possible case because we're kind of lying to ourselves.

So that's the most negative. The other negative is understanding that something is untrue, but not doing anything about it.

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