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On Being with Krista Tippett

Pádraig Ó Tuama — “This fantastic argument of being alive”

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Pádraig Ó Tuama is a friend, teacher, and colleague to the work of On Being. But before that was true, Krista took a revelatory trip to meet him at his home in Northern Ireland, a place that has known sectarianism and violent fracture and has evolved, not to perfection, yet to new life and once unimaginable repair and relationship. Our whole world screams of fracture, more now than when Krista sat with Pádraig in 2016. This conversation is a gentle, welcoming landing for pondering and befriending hard realities we are given. As the global educator Karen Murphy, another friend of On Being and of Pádraig, once said to Krista: “Let’s have the humility and the generosity to step back and learn from these places that have had the courage to look at themselves and look at where they’ve been and try to forge a new path with something that resembles ‘together’ … Right now we should be taking these stories and these examples and these places and filling our pockets and our lungs and our hearts and our minds with them and learning deeply.” And that’s what this hour with Pádraig invites.

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0:00.0

On Being with Christa Tippett is supported in part by the Fetzer Institute, helping build the

0:04.8

Spiritual Foundation for a loving world. Fetzer's sharing Spiritual Heritage Report asks,

0:10.8

how will we reimagine our spiritual infrastructure for today's time? Learn more at Fetzer.org.

0:18.2

Padregg Otumma is a friend, teacher, and colleague to me and the work of on-being.

0:24.1

But before that was true, we took a revelatory trip to meet him at his home in Northern Ireland,

0:31.2

a place that has known violent sectarianism and has evolved, not to perfection, and yet to new life,

0:39.6

and once unimaginable repair and relationship. Our whole world screams a fracture more now than

0:47.6

when I sat with Padregg. Yet this conversation is a gentle, welcoming landing for pondering and

0:55.4

befriending the hard realities we are given. As the global educator Karen Murphy, another friend of

1:02.4

on-being and of Padregg says, we are standing in the middle of a bridge and need to decide how we're

1:08.9

going to walk across it together and in what direction. Let's have the humility and the generosity

1:16.3

to step back and learn from these places that have had the courage to look at themselves and look

1:22.5

at where they've been and try to forge a new path with something that resembles together.

1:29.2

Right now we should be taking these stories and these examples and these places and filling our

1:35.7

pockets and our lungs and our hearts and our minds with them and learning deeply. That's what

1:43.8

Padregg invites this hour. I'm Christa Tippett and this is on-being.

1:57.5

Padreggotuma is a theologian and poet and the author of an incandescent memoir

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in the shelter finding a home in the world. He's the host of the on-being studios podcast

2:09.6

poetry unbound now in its fifth season. I sat with him in 2016 at the Corrie Meola community

2:16.8

of Northern Ireland of which he is a member and at that time was a leader. This is a place that

2:22.8

has offered literal refuge and seeds of new life during and since the violent fracture that

2:29.8

defined that country until the 1998 Good Friday Agreement. Padregg grew up in the south in the

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