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in the news, often over drinks.

I'm Ashley McKinless, and I'm joined by Zach Davis.

Great to be with you Ashley. It's time for another one.

Hello Zach. Where are you calling in from this time?

We drove to Ohio overnight last night so spending a little bit of time

with the in-laws from here so in the in the homeland always feels good there

are trees and grass and sweet smells of and shaky internet and shaky internet

So we're making do with what we got but it's I think we're stable right now

But you know This is fitting because because our guests this week also was calling in from a remote location.

That is true.

Podrig O'Tuma, who is the host of the Poetry Unbound podcast with On Being Studios called us from what he described as a remote field a dark road a remote field in Ireland

Yes, uh, Podrig is a fantastic theologian, analyzer of literature, but also someone who's done

a lot of work in Ireland's Peace and Reconciliation process, Ireland and Northern Ireland's peace and reconciliation process,

Ireland and Northern Ireland's peace and reconciliation process.

So he's a fascinating person to talk to,

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