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Ultimate challenge is to ensure that by our response,

say for example, the Russians do escalate and use the tactical nuclear weapons,

that we not raise the risk, there will be nuclear escalation that arises from that,

that could lead to obviously a World War or nuclear annihilation.

That's the number one challenge, but ensure that whatever response that the United States and its allies

imposes on the Russians ensures that Putin doesn't get away with nuclear blackmail,

which is essentially what he's doing.

Ralph Mohat-Larson is a former senior CIA operations officer who spent much of his career working on Russia.

Ralph now serves as the William J. Perry Distinguished Fellow at the Nuclear Threat Initiative,

and is a senior fellow at the Belfer Center at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

Ralph has been on our show before to discuss Russia's invasion of Ukraine,

and he joins us today to provide an update at a critical moment in the war.

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