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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Putin's grip on power. Who should pay to fix climate problems? Kenya’s President on his rise from poverty to power

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week Fareed hosts an all-star panel with David Remnick, the editor of The New Yorker, and Nina Khrushcheva, a professor of International Affairs at The New School. They discuss how the recent insurrection may jeopardize Putin's grip on power, examining the fall of the USSR to understand the present moment in Russian domestic politics. Then, Fareed sits down with Prime Minister of Barbados Mia Mottley to talk about climate change; she says that wealthy countries and corporations who have contributed to the climate crisis must do their part to address the global consequences. Plus, Kenyan President William Ruto talks with Fareed about his rise to power in Kenya and his country's stance on the war in Ukraine.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:07.0

I'm Farid Zakaria.

0:09.0

Today on the program, from the Zars and Zarena's to Soviet-era commissars, to President Putin,

0:23.0

we delve into the nature of power in Russia, looking at the best to help us understand the present.

0:32.0

I'll talk to the New Yorkers, David Gremlich, and new school professor Nina Khrushcheva.

0:38.0

Also, the Prime Minister of Barbados are getting the west to pay for damage from climate changes,

0:45.0

rising seas and wild weather.

0:48.0

Two degrees is a death sentence.

0:52.0

And the President of Kenya, on why many nations in the global south are not taking a side on the war in Ukraine.

1:04.0

But first, here's my take.

1:06.0

In his important book, The Third Wave, Samuel Huntington pointed out that division among the ruling elite is a key sign of weakness in authoritarian regimes.

1:16.0

When prominent members of the establishment break with the system, it often triggers a larger set of changes.

1:23.0

Conversely, when you do not see such defections, it means the order-crack will probably be able to survive.

1:29.0

Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad offers one example of this principle at work.

1:35.0

So how would we apply that to Russia today?

1:38.0

If any progozians failed attack, it has revealed some dissent within Russia's ruling elite.

1:44.0

But Vladimir Putin was apparently able to snuff it out within a day or two.

1:48.0

It appears that progozians got no public support from any key figure in the Kremlin,

1:53.0

which could be why he ended his quick-sotic march on Moscow.

1:57.0

Putin has spent much of his tenure crushing dissent from liberals, now he is subduing his challengers on the nationalist side.

2:05.0

Power struggles within the Russian state take place in a black box.

2:10.0

As the lines often attributed to Winston Churchill go, Kremlin, political intrigues are comparable to a bulldog fight under a rug.

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