All right, Alexander, let's talk about the situation in Ukraine.

We can talk about the Putin-Erdawan meeting.

I don't think it was a shock.

Any surprises from Putin's meeting with Erdogan?

I think it was pretty much as most people thought it was going to turn out to be.

But Putin did say some interesting things connected

to the conflict in Ukraine, as did Shoyu. So maybe we want to get into that. But let's, and we can

talk a little bit about what's happening on the front, on the front line. But let's, let's just start

off with a summary of the grain deal discussions.

Yeah.

Because that was the main reason, I think, that Erdogan was there.

And then we can get into what I think are the more interesting topics that were discussed

and the more interesting statements that were made.

Well, I think, can I just say, I think that you're right in saying that the grain deal discussion was important because there's been so much attention devoted to it.

But I actually think that in some ways it's an importance that has been misunderstood in the sense that they had to talk about it, because Erdogan has

invested so much of his own political capital in it. But I don't think that Erdogan actually

went there with any expectation that he was going to get Putin to agree to re-enter the

great deal. I think he went there, actually intending to talk about lots of other things

and lots of important things, which is now becoming clear.

Some of them have not been highlighted in the official statements or the press conferences

and things of that kind.

But of course, talking about the Green deal gave an excuse, a good reason for this meeting, and it was the kind of topic that the media could basically congregate around. Now, briefly, I mean, Putin basically said, Russia is not re-entering the grain deal. Full stop. That's it. I mean, that's really what he said. He said, you know, in order for us to re-enter the grain deal, the Western powers must do all the things that they did not do. They must reconnect the Russian agricultural back to Swift. They must lift the sanctions on our food and

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