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Witness History

Put on trial in South Africa for 'conspiring' to have sex

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

In 1969, a white man and an Indian woman were put on trial in South Africa for conspiring to have sex.

Dr Zureena Desai and Professor John Blacking were the most high profile couple to be arrested under the Immorality Act.

Their case made headlines all over the world and made a laughing stock of South Africa's ruling National Party and its racist regime.

Dr Desai tells Vicky Farncombe about the ridiculous lengths police officers went to in order to gather evidence against the couple, including climbing trees and listening at ventilation shafts.

“Young people born after 1994 don't remember what South Africa was like,” she says. “People died. And people were arrested for fatuous reasons.”

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

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(Photo: Dr Zureena Desai. Credit: Abrie Jantjies)

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0:47.6

Vicky Farncombe. I'm taking you back to 1969 and the moment a white man and an Indian woman were put on trial in South Africa

0:57.0

for conspiring to have sex.

1:00.0

Their case made headlines all over the world and made a laughing stock of South Africa's ruling

1:05.4

National Party and its racist regime. Anybody who ever met John knew knew that he was enormously

1:18.0

charismatic. He was very tall, he was very good looking. He had a wonderful way of making people feel comfortable.

1:28.0

That's what he was like.

1:30.0

Dr. Zarena Desai, describing her late husband, John Blacking.

1:34.8

The couple met in Johannesburg in the 1960s.

1:38.5

She was a medical student.

1:40.2

He was professor of social anthropology at Vitz University.

1:44.0

This was at the time of apartheid, when laws were in place to discriminate against black people

1:50.0

and to keep them apart from white people.

1:52.0

John was white, I was not white. and to keep them apart from white people.

1:54.8

John was white, I was not white. All we were interested in was that we were human beings.

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