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🗓️ 23 August 2025
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0:00.0 | When you have a pixel 10, you may get asked a few questions. Like, what is that? How did you do that? |
0:09.1 | And can we use your camera instead? Ask more of your phone. Google Pixel 10. |
0:29.7 | I'm Mark Joseph Stern, and this is Amicus, Slate's podcast about the courts, the law, and the Supreme Court. |
0:32.1 | There's no shared right here. |
0:34.9 | When you introduce fetal personhood, you fundamentally change the legal rights |
0:38.9 | and status of all pregnant women. You force them to forfeit their personhood once this |
0:44.5 | kind of fetal person has taken up residence inside their body. The fall of Roe v. Wade in |
0:52.3 | 2022 marked a dark turning point in American law. |
0:56.4 | With a single decision, the Supreme Court overturned 50 years of precedent, protecting a woman's right to reproductive choice. |
1:03.5 | The ruling set off a high-stakes battle to restore abortion access in red and purple states |
1:08.7 | and drew attention to the life-threatening horrors that |
1:11.8 | these bans inflict on women with failing pregnancies. But there's another threat to reproductive |
1:18.4 | freedom in the United States, and that's the criminalization of pregnancy outcomes, prosecuting |
1:24.5 | women for experiencing a miscarriage or stillbirth. |
1:28.0 | This has been going on since before the demise of Roe, something Georgetown Law Professor |
1:32.6 | Michelle Goodwin documented in her renowned 2020 book Policing the Womb. |
1:37.5 | But with Roe wiped off the books, these prosecutions have ramped up. |
1:41.5 | They aren't limited to red states either. |
1:43.7 | In recent years, we've seen prosecutors |
1:45.4 | in deep blue states seek prison time for women who had a miscarriage or stillbirth. Lawmakers |
1:51.5 | around the country are developing new ways to punish women whose pregnancies don't result in a |
1:57.9 | healthy live birth. Karen Thompson is on the front lines of the increasingly pitched battle to defend women being |
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