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Hospital and Internal Medicine Podcast

Pulmonary Embolism - part 2

Hospital and Internal Medicine Podcast

Gil Porat, M.D., FACP, CPT

Health & Fitness, Fitness, Science, Health & Fitness:medicine, Medicine

4.7587 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2016

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

The treatment challenges of subsegmental pulmonary embolism, with emphasis on the 2016 guidelines are reviewed. Ventilation/perfusion (V/Q) scan interpretations in those unable to get a CT scan are considered.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back. So I was in the hospital this past week and I was seeing a lot of patients and one of

0:06.7

them happened to have a PE, but it really wasn't his biggest issue. It wasn't massive P.E. And the

0:13.9

reason he got the P.E. was really his other issues like functional decline and his kidneys were

0:19.2

starting to fail. An older guy and he was a bit cranky,

0:22.5

but nice guy, nice guy. By no means was he mean. He just was a little bit down on life and it was

0:28.3

understandable. But at one point he mentioned to me something kind of sad and he said,

0:33.4

listen, there's days where if I could just end it, I would take a gun and shoot myself.

0:38.4

So, of course, I called his wife, who seemed totally uninterested in everything I had to say about him.

0:47.6

You know, I'm telling her, he's got a blood clap, but the bigger issues, he's heading towards dialysis,

0:53.3

he's not sure he wants to do dialysis,

0:54.9

and then I mentioned that he said, if he had a gun, there's days he might shoot himself.

1:01.5

And for the first time in the conversations, she speaks up and says, where do I bring it?

1:08.1

In some days, I don't know whether I should be laughing or crying, but what I do know

1:14.3

is this job is always interesting. All right. So in the last lecture, we were talking about

1:20.9

pulmonary embolisms where I mentioned that if you think it's a false positive, like a small

1:27.1

PE that's not in the right place

1:30.2

of where the patient is having pain, you know, I think I gave the example that came in with

1:35.2

right upper quadrant pain, but the PE's in the left upper chest and that sub-segmental,

1:41.1

that you probably have a false positive and you may not want to treat that.

1:45.6

But what happens if you have a sub-segmental PE that you think is real?

1:53.1

You know, let's say it's really close to where they're having pleuritic chest pain.

1:57.1

The question then comes up, do you treat that patient if that's the only finding

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