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You walk to the end of the bar, turn left and here you are in a really wonderful looking delicatessen, butchers, and there's bread and there's fantastic looking pies.

Who makes the pies Oliver?

Pies are all made here by our chef Harry who does also makes all the breads, the cakes, and does all the chakutri,

so all of our air-dried hands, salamis, pistrami, black puddings, and anything else that takes is fancy.

That's one way of serving food in a pub.

Yeah, the people that work in our kitchens, we have kitchen managers, we have kitchen associates.

We don't talk about chefs because we wouldn't say that people working in our kitchen are chefs.

A lot of the food is obviously bought in or it might be for example some of the Indian meals and we serve I think it's some like 3 4 million

curries a year in our pubs.

A lot of those meals are produced externally by a specialist company and

produced to the highest quality and we couldn't do it and we wouldn't have the

time to it. We'd rather use a specialist company.

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