Hello there, everybody.

Welcome to another psychedelic today episode with your host, David Drapkin.

Speaking with Dr. Monica Williams that was recorded live in person in Toronto at the From Research to Reality

conference a couple months back.

So this is number four or five of our live recordings.

There's still one more to go.

But don't worry, there's plenty more conferences coming down the horizons literally very soon.

Okay, so yeah, Monica and I had a wonderful chat at the very end of the conference.

Literally, someone knocked on the door to try and like turn off the lights and take out the

furniture of the room that we were recording in. I think Monica had already kind of got into

some more comfortable clothes at the end of the conference. And thank you for sticking around to

interview this episode with me, you know, at the end of an

amazing conference. It's wonderful just to have that chance to chat. Monica was one of the three

kind of main founders and directors of the conference itself. So we do talk about why the conference

exists, what its mission was, and how it

was for her personally kind of being involved at running a conference. We also talked about

why did she move to Canada? And I think you probably know by now, I'm not the biggest patriot

of American life and society. So it was really interesting hearing her experiences

kind of from a cultural and academic lens that led to her moving north. And obviously,

you know, Monica's work around anti-racism and racialization being really big challenges to

solidarity, collaboration, equity, justice, inclusion in our

society, but also particularly within psychedelic research and trials, organizations. So we cover

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