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The Dr. Phil Podcast

Pt2 Criminalizing Survival: Should Sleeping Outside Be a Crime?

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Society & Culture, Education

4.313.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Phil investigates whether arresting the unhoused for sleeping in public is justice or cruelty.

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0:00.0

Missy is a resident of Grants Pass.

0:04.0

She says the rise in homelessness has left many residents scared.

0:10.0

It's really sad to see what's happened.

0:12.0

Not just down here, but this whole town.

0:14.0

I was assaulted.

0:16.0

I guess that's like one of my biggest fears is that happening again.

0:20.0

I mean, I was alone when that happened, but I can't even imagine if like one of my kids was with me.

0:24.6

You say there's constant shooting up of drugs, overdoses, dead bodies have been found.

0:31.6

Out me open.

0:32.6

Brock claims the city of Grants Pass has always been about community, but now that that park

0:38.7

has become a place for homelessness and drug use.

0:42.4

I'm not an expert, but I know living with drug addicts, my son's a drug addict.

0:47.1

You could find my son a house tomorrow, but that doesn't mean he'll be able to take care

0:50.8

of it.

0:51.8

So your son is actually in that park?

0:53.3

He's in the park right now.

0:54.7

You wear a hidden camera.

0:55.9

And you're holding weekly meetings and showing some of this and talking to people because

1:00.4

you're trying to get the city to act.

1:02.2

What do you guys want them to do?

1:03.5

What's the answer?

1:04.6

First of all, clean up the parks.

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