Bitching, bitching.

All right, so I've been wanting to cover this book for a long time.

Now is the appropriate time.

Now that we're beginning to have a lot of fruitful conversations, actually, with traditional Catholics and Thomas, finally.

So we have multiple lengthy fruitful conversations today in the Discord.

So I'm glad for that.

Glad that we can have conversations on a friendly level without getting to,

and even heated passion discussions without getting too angry or whatever.

As we get to the end of tonight's talk,

I'm going to open up the Discord for people who want to do Q&A.

If you want to come on audio-wise and answer from the...

From the Discord.

You can come on and ask questions,

or I'll just read the questions from the Discord.

So you don't have to come on if you don't want to.

But if you guys are in the Discord and you want to ask questions, towards the end, I'm going to give priority to the super chat questions

and so welcome everybody to tonight's stream so we're going to be talking about the

excellent Wemhoff book that I've talked about for a long time John Courtney

Murray time left magazine and the American Proposition.

Now, a little bit of background.

If you're a trad, as I was a trad, for many years,

then you typically believe in the narrative that something like this happened basically around the time

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