Wake up! The Jones is a redo in their garden! Love that porcelain paven and all that fencing.

I knew it. They'd been with their landscaper to Jusen. A mini-digger! No wonder she was so smug at Zumba! Right, I want a sunken seating area. She won't have that? For materials, too high, timber and paving. Don't waste time. Deucon's got the lot. Like Terales, porcelain,

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All trade prices exclude VAT at 20%. So now you can keep up with the Joneses. And the Evanses. And the Bertels. Well, just like the tech issues that we recently had where our entire system shorted, sorry about that. Sometimes confusion comes into our lives.

We often don't understand the reason why we live. We don't understand the purpose of our existence

and we're trying to find out exactly what it is we're supposed to be doing here.

Now, many Americans have decided that, you know, the way that we find out who God is and what

our purpose is is through Christianity. But when you approach Christianity,

it's not as simple as you think. Sometimes you look around you, there's Protestants, there's

in there, there's evangelicals, there's the mainline denominations, then you go out, and then there's

Orthodox, there's Catholic. But if you notice today with the gay flags in front of churches

and the pastricks, the female pastors,

and the weird ideology, a lot of young people are finding out that the modern church perhaps

may not be the best version of Christ's holy church. In fact, maybe, just maybe, the people of the

past knew a little more than we did. When looking back in history myself, I found there's two churches. There's the Catholic Church, we'll call it, in general, and the Orthodox Church. They both claim to be the true church. One follows the papacy. It looks like the other one doesn't. And yet at the same time, when you ask either of them, really, where should I go to church? They'll say, well, most of them are you should go to Catholic, but you know, you can go to Orthodox. If I said Orthodox, I say you can go to Catholic, but you should go to Orthodox. So why do we have both then? Which one is true? Which one is the way to be a part of Christ's eternal body, to be a part of the moving, living, breathing unit of Christ? join me today to discuss the true church,

whether it's Orthodox or Catholicism. We are talking to experts in their field. Jay Dyer, he's a podcast host, author of many books and an avid reader. Jay Dyer, welcome back to the show. Let us know who you are. For those that are just joining for the first time, you want to explain a little bit about what it means to be an orthodox or what that even defines itself as and a little bit about where people can find your podcast. Yeah, Jay Dyer, I have been Orthodox since about 2017 and prior to that was Roman

Catholic for many years, pretty dedicated Latin mass goer, was raised Protestant in the Reformed

Baptist and the Reformed tradition.

And, yeah, I would say that what Orthodox Christianity is, is we believe it is the

church of the first millennium still preserved and still holding to those synodal traditions

that are essentially found within any of the canonical Orthodox churches

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