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In Our Time: History

Psychoanalysis and Democracy

In Our Time: History

BBC

History

4.43.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2002

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the impact of politics on psychoanalysis. The 20th century saw the birth and rise of psychoanalysis. Sigmund Freud led people to think about how the mind functioned and how our behaviour might be understood through the process of working with a psychoanalyst, either one-to-one or in a group. Freud thought a lot about this process and in 1922 he published Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego, in which he pronounced that the group "wants to be ruled and oppressed and to fear its masters." He was writing at a time when ideas about rules and oppression were much discussed because the 20th century was also a century of fascism, totalitarianism and dictatorship. Freud died in 1939, just as a wave of despotism was sweeping across Europe. To what extent does psychoanalysis function by the rules of a dictatorship and to what extent does it function like a democracy? Is there a part of us that craves dictatorship and, if so, why? Is there a war going on in our own minds between ideas that we allow in to our consciousness and other ideas that we repress? With Adam Phillips, general editor of the new Penguin translations of Freud; Sally Alexander, Professor of History, Goldsmiths College, University of London; Malcolm Bowie, Marshal Foch Professor of French Literature and Fellow, All Souls College, Oxford.

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0:00.0

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0:05.4

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0:12.0

Hello at the turn of the 19th and 20th century we saw the birth and rise of psychoanalysis championed by

0:18.1

Sigmund Freud people began to think about how the mind functioned and how our behavior might be understood through the process of

0:24.3

Working with a psychoanalyst either one to one or in a group Freud taught a lot about this process

0:29.0

In 1922 he published group psychology and the analysis of the ego in which he pronounced the group quote

0:34.8

Wants to be ruled and oppressed and to fear its masters unquote

0:39.2

Freud was writing at a time on ideas about rules and oppression were much discussed because the 20th century was also a century

0:45.4

Fascism totalitarianism and dictatorship Freud died in 1939 just as a wave of

0:50.9

Desperatism was sweeping across Europe today

0:53.6

We'll be discussing the relationship between politics and psychoanalysis to what extent does psychoanalysis functioned by the rules of a

1:00.0

Dictatorship and to what extent does it function like a democracy is a part of us that craved dictatorship

1:05.5

And if so why and is there a war going on in our own minds between ideas that we allow into our consciousness and others that we repress

1:12.7

With me to discuss psychoanalysis and democracy are Adam Phillips

1:16.3

Psychotherapist and author of an excellent new book equals and general editor of the new penguin translations of Freud

1:22.6

Sally Alexander professor of modern history at Goldsmiths College University of London and founding editor of the history workshop journal and Malcolm Bowie

1:31.0

Marshall Foysch professor of French literature and fellow of all sales college Oxford Adam Phillips Freud was

1:37.6

Writing in the early part of the 20th century. Can you sketch out the political and historical background that informed his ideas?

1:45.2

In

1:47.6

23 the young adult Hitler left Vienna and discussed

1:51.6

describing it as a Babylon of racism and I think the most

1:58.0

Significant thing about Vienna in the period in which Freud lived and it was simply the a the mobility of people for example

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