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Psychiatrist Andrew Lustig on the Conspiracist Internet Subculture of ‘Gangstalking’

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Society & Culture, Politics, News, Science, News Commentary

4.6917 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Quillette’s Jonathan Kay speaks to Canadian researcher Andrew Lustig about his research on the web-based communities of individuals who believe they are surrounded by evidence of an enormous “gangstalking” conspiracy, involving dozens or even hundreds of individuals, aimed at causing them to become insane or commit suicide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Colette Podcast. My name is Claire Lehman and I am editor and chief of Colette.

0:08.0

Colette is where free thought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

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Our podcast is a team effort and is jointly hosted by myself, associate editor Toby Young,

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and Canadian editor Jonathan Kay.

0:22.0

You can support our podcast by visiting

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Patreon.com forward slash Quilett and becoming a monthly patron. By becoming a

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monthly patron you'll also receive our weekly newsletter.

0:35.0

Welcome to the Quilett Podcast.

0:36.8

I'm Jonathan Kay, broadcasting from Toronto.

0:40.0

In medicine, there's a concept known as contested illnesses.

0:43.8

These are conditions like chronic fatigue syndrome or multiple chemical sensitivities in which

0:49.2

the very existence of the disease itself is disputed by members of the medical field,

0:54.0

despite the fact that some patients are convinced that they are afflicted by these

0:58.2

ailments. Andrew Lustig is a skin condition that experts believe is a product of patient's own delusions.

1:14.4

This interest has led Dr Lustig down a lot of interesting internet pathways, including web

1:19.1

forums dedicated to something called gangstalking, which he discusses in a newly published article in the Journal of Medical Internet Research.

1:27.0

Lustig describes gang stalking as, quote, a novel persecutory belief system whereby those affected believe they are being

1:34.6

followed, stalked, and harassed by a large number of people. The harassment is

1:39.6

experienced as an accretion of innumerable individually benign acts, such as people clearing their throat,

1:45.8

muttering under their breath, or giving dirty looks as they pass on the street.

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In some cases I learned, people who believe they are being gangstocked may find it suspicious that, say, a certain number of cars passed by their street on a given morning, or that a certain number of those cars are red.

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