Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy with Dr. Albert Garcia Romeu

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

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🗓️ 15 August 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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There’s been an explosion of interest in psychedelics over the last 10 years, and phrases like “psychedelic-assisted therapy” have gone from the relative fringes of the mental health conversation to bursting into the mainstream. Alongside a great deal of hype is a growing body of research revealing the potential of substances like psilocybin and MDMA as novel treatments for depression, addiction, and PTSD. On today’s episode of Being Well, Forrest is joined by Dr. Albert Garcia-Romeu from the Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research. They explore the history and current state of psychedelic research, their subjective effects, the necessity of the “trip,” how psychedelics work in the brain, why researchers are so interested in these substances, and what a psychedelic-assisted therapy session looks like. About Our Guest: Dr. Garcia-Romeu is a member of the Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences faculty at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. His research examines the effects of psychedelics in humans, with a focus on psilocybin as an aid in the treatment of addiction. Watch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:55: Dr. Garcia-Romeu’s background 3:00: What substances have been the focus of research? 8:10: The history of psychedelics 11:15: Usefulness and subjective effects of classical psychedelics (LSD/Psilocybin) 17:35: Ego loss or “ego-death” and the role of spirituality in mental health 21:40: What is happening neurologically with Psilocybin? 27:55: Psychedelics may be the best current treatment option for some conditions 35:05: How close is the research to proving efficacy? 38:05: The relative safety of psychedelics 41:00: What does a psychedelic-assisted therapy session look like? 47:00: Self-guidance in a session 49:50: Duration of treatment, financial and legal access 54:00: Using psychedelics for personal growth, spiritual practice, and even recreation 58:00: Where is the field going? 59:25: Recap Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors: Bombas designed their socks, shirts, and underwear to be the clothes you can’t wait to put on every day. Visit bombas.com/beingwell and use code beingwell for 20% off. Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription. Ready to shake up your protein Ritual? Being Well listeners get 10% off during your first 3 months at ritual.com/WELL. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to Being Well, I'm Forrest Hanson.
0:10.4	If you're new to the podcast, thanks for joining us today.
0:13.2	And if you've listened before, welcome back.
0:15.6	Over the last 10 or so years, there has been an absolute explosion of interest in psychedelics,
0:21.2	particularly related to the potential that these substances have to treat a variety
0:25.3	of mental health conditions.
0:27.0	And phrases like psychedelic assisted therapy have gone from the relative fringes of the
0:31.4	mental health conversation to bursting into the mainstream.
0:34.9	For instance, you might have read Michael Pollan's bestselling book How to Change Your Mind
0:38.1	or watched the Netflix special by the same name.
0:40.7	Or maybe you've heard a wide variety of podcast hosts talk about their thoroughly out
0:44.7	their experiences with substances like DMT.
0:48.4	There's a lot of hype around psychedelics right now.
0:51.4	And it's not just hype, there's a fascinating and growing body of research on the usage
0:55.9	of substances like psilocybin, LSD and MDMA in clinical settings as a potential treatment
1:02.3	for everything from depression to anxiety to PTSD.
1:06.4	And more anecdotally, many, many people have reported using these substances as powerful
1:11.1	tools for personal self exploration and growth.
1:14.4	But as the hype around something rises, it's really easy to get a bit carried away, particularly
1:18.5	when we're talking about substances that are as complex and divisive as psychedelics.
1:23.3	That's why I've been really looking forward to this conversation today with a member of
1:26.4	the faculty at the Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research, Dr.
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