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Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

PSMF Ask Me Anything: Rapid Fat Loss, Protein to Protect Muscle, Fat and Carb Re-Feeds & Hormones (Part 1)

Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

Vanessa Spina

Fitness, Health & Fitness, Nutrition

4.5758 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In this Ask Me Anything episode, Vanessa breaks down your most common questions about the Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) — one of the most powerful evidence-based tools for rapid fat loss and muscle preservation.

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You'll learn exactly how to calculate your macros, when to schedule refeeds, how to adapt PSMF for your menstrual cycle or menopause, and what recent human clinical studies reveal about high-protein, very-low-carb diets for fat loss, hormonal balance, and metabolic health.

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🧬 Topics Covered

  • What is a Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF)?
  • How to set your protein, carb, and fat macros
  • How to calculate protein for your body weight
  • Sample PSMF meal day and practical food swaps
  • Should women do PSMF during PMS or before menstruation?
  • Refeeds vs. diet breaks: how and when to use them
  • PSMF for menopausal women and insulin resistance
  • Using PSMF 1–2 days per week for maintenance
  • Cholesterol and lipid changes on high-protein, low-fat keto
  • Tracking ketosis with the Tone Device

📚 Scientific Studies Discussed

  1. Pandurevic et al., 2023 — Endocrine Connections
    • "Efficacy of very low-calorie ketogenic diet in obese women with PCOS"
    • 16-week RCT showing a VLCKD produced greater fat loss, improved hormones, and restored ovulation compared to a Mediterranean diet.
  2. Pala et al., 2024 — Frontiers in Endocrinology
    • "Very low-calorie ketogenic diet reduces blood pressure and cardiometabolic risk in postmenopausal women."
    • 6-month clinical trial: VLCKD led to lower central blood pressure, triglycerides, and visceral fat vs. intermittent fasting or free diet.
  3. Merra et al., 2016 — European Review for Medical and Pharmacological Sciences
    • "VLCKD with amino acid supplementation preserves muscle mass during rapid fat loss."
    • Demonstrated superior lean mass preservation compared to an equally low-calorie but non-ketogenic diet.
  4. Guarnotta et al., 2022 — Nutrients
    • Review: VLCKDs (<800 kcal/day, <50 g carbs) consistently improve insulin sensitivity, lipid profile, and body composition in metabolic disease.
  5. Umbrella Review, 2023 — BMC Medicine
    • Summarized multiple meta-analyses showing ketogenic and very-low-carb diets yield significant fat loss, lower triglycerides, and improved glucose control, especially when protein is optimized.

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The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the optimal protein podcast. I'm Vanessa Spina.

0:04.8

Hello, my friends. Welcome back to the optimal protein podcast. I'm your host Vanessa.

0:09.7

And I am so excited for today's episode because we are doing an Ask Me Anything episode today

0:16.1

all about protein sparing, modified fasting, or PSMF. And I am so excited to dig into all of your

0:24.0

burning questions about this topic. I received so many questions from you all after doing

0:30.1

several episodes now on the topic, on going through all the historical scientific literature

0:35.9

on it, and also sharing how I recently successfully

0:38.9

lost about 13 pounds of fat while protecting all of my lean body mass while doing some protein

0:46.1

spraying modified fasting days myself as well as refeeds. And I just received so many questions for

0:51.7

you all that I thought it would be a fantastic time to do

0:54.6

and ask me anything episode. Now, as usual, this is going to be separated into two parts. So today

1:00.8

is part one and you'll be able to catch two, the second part on Friday. So we're going to be

1:06.4

covering all of your top questions on protein sparing modified fasting, things like how to set

1:13.2

the macros, how often to do it, what it looks like during your cycle or in menopause,

1:19.6

whether it affects cholesterol and so much more. So as always, this episode is for education only

1:26.8

and it is not medical advice, as I am not a

1:29.7

qualified care provider. Protein sparing modified fasting is a powerful clinical level tool for fat

1:35.6

loss when done on subsequent days. And the research that we are talking about today is mostly

1:41.8

in people with overweight or obesity because that's where

1:45.3

most of the studies have been done in human subjects. And it's also often under medical supervision.

1:50.9

So you definitely want to talk to your care provider to see if doing some protein sparing

1:55.4

modified fasting days would be suitable for you and not contraindicated. So with that in mind, let's get into all of your questions.

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