Protecting Your Phone—and Your Privacy—at the US Border
Uncanny Valley | WIRED
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4.1 • 575 Ratings
🗓️ 24 April 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Under the new Trump administration, more and more visa holders and foreign visitors are being detained or denied entry at the border. It’s also becoming more common for people to be questioned or detained because of content on their phones, laptops and cameras. In today’s episode, we’ll tell you what you need to know about your carrying devices across the US border, and how to stay safe. Plus, we share some pretty spectacular recommendations for your downtime.
You can follow our hosts on Bluesky—Michael Calore is @snackfight, Lauren Goode is @laurengoode, and Katie Drummond is @katie-drummond.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back, Katie. |
| 0:02.3 | Thank you so much. I am so happy to be back. My brain barely works. That's how great the trip was. We had a fantastic time. We did travel internationally. I took my family on a really fantastic vacation. |
| 0:14.8 | What vibes did you get from people outside of the U.S.? About the U.S.? You know, it's interesting. If they were dealing with me or my child, I have a very cute child, they were lovely. |
| 0:26.5 | I speak French. |
| 0:27.9 | I was in, look, I was in France, okay? |
| 0:30.4 | I don't know why I'm trying to conceal this. |
| 0:31.9 | I have already come back. |
| 0:34.0 | So I think that helped a lot. |
| 0:36.4 | My husband, I'm married to someone who's very loud. |
| 0:39.6 | And so he gives very, like, American energy. |
| 0:43.4 | And they didn't love that. |
| 0:45.8 | But I don't know how much of that is just, like, loud man versus, like, oh, loud American. |
| 0:51.3 | You know what I mean? |
| 0:53.5 | Depending on which member of the family we're talking about, I think experiences differ. |
| 0:58.5 | But I did great. |
| 1:00.1 | I remember going to France during the George W. Bush administration, and I would tell people, |
| 1:06.7 | I'm from California. I wouldn't say I'm from the United States. I'd say, I'm from California. |
| 1:10.5 | And then they would, they would, like, express sympathy toward me. They would say, oh, I'm from California. I wouldn't say I'm from United States. I'd say, I'm from California. And then they would, they would, like, express sympathy toward me. They would say, oh, I'm so sorry. They were, like, very, very aware that California was sort of politically left from the rest of the country. That's a very smart tactical move. It's probably more extreme now. Yes, probably. All right, well, let's get on with the show, |
| 1:29.4 | because today we are talking about travel, |
| 1:32.1 | specifically international travel. |
| 1:34.6 | Katie, you've inspired us. |
| 1:36.5 | We're going to talk about how to protect yourself |
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