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Propaganda of the Deed w/ Vicky Osterweil (12/12/24)

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🗓️ 12 December 2024

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Beatrice speaks with Vicky Osterweil about organizing under a second Trump presidency (and why jumping in takes less than you might think), the historic assassination of the CEO of the US’s most profitable health insurance company, and Daniel Penny’s acquittal. Read Vicky’s piece “Let’s get started” here: https://all-cats-are-beautiful.ghost.io/keeping-us-safe/ Find CAW Journal here: https://www.cawshinythings.com/ And CAW’s fundraiser here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-launch-caw/#/?perk=5651030 Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

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what a moment like this catalyzes is everyone looks around and they go, oh, I thought it was me,

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right? I thought I hated my experience with health insurance so much that I would laugh at a CEO

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getting gunned down, you know? Like, I thought that was me. Like, I thought I was weird, you know?

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But actually it's you and it's you. It's like every and you were

0:21.6

there and you were there. It's like waking up from Oz, right? Like, Welcome to the Deaf Panel.

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Patrons, thank you so much for sustaining the show.

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This work is only possible because of your support.

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If you're not a patron yet, you're missing out on a whole second episode and our entire

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back catalog of bonus content.

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So join now at patreon.com slash Death PanelPod to check that out.

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And while you're at it, grab copies of

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health communism and a short history of trans misogyny, available at your local bookstore or at a

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library near you. I'm Beatrice Suther Bolton, and today I'm really excited to be joined by

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returning guest and dear friend of the panel, Vicki Osterwhile. Vicki is a brilliant author,

1:26.9

worker, and agitator. She's the author of the 2020 book In Defense of Looting, a riotous history of uncivil action. She writes a newsletter about revolt, history, culture, anarchy, and technology called All Cats Are Beautiful. And her next book, called The Extended Universe, is forthcoming next year from Haymarket.

1:46.0

She's also a member of the new Worker Run Journal called Ka, which we're going to talk about today as

1:51.4

well. I originally invited Vicky on the show today to discuss a recent article that she wrote for

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her newsletter called Let's Get Started. The piece focuses on the power of small group organizing as we

2:02.9

face the looming challenges of a second Trump era. However, as fate would have it, recent events have

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added even more relevance to our conversation today. The shooting of the United Health Care CEO

2:14.3

last week ties directly to the themes of her piece, so we've expanded our

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discussion to include that incident and its aftermath. In addition, we'll be talking about the

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