Progress: The Will of Albus Dumbledore (Book 7, Chapter 7)
Harry Potter and the Sacred Text
Vanessa Zoltan, Casper ter Kuile & Ariana Nedelman
4.7 • 6.8K Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
This week, Vanessa and Casper are joined by special guest Hana Thomas Uose as they explore the theme of Progress in Chapter 7 of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows! They discuss Harry’s 17th birthday, Hagrid’s unicorns, and Scrimgeour’s visit! Throughout the episode we consider the question: what are all the different ways we can measure progress?
Thank you to Emily for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 8, The Wedding, with special guest Micaela Blei through the theme of Storytelling.
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| 0:00.0 | Vanessa, it's our flagship program launch for What Matters, and this year you've chosen |
| 0:06.5 | some fabulous books. Tell us more about the program. Yes, so what matters is a 28-week |
| 0:13.0 | intensive cohort-based class that is all based around sacred reading. This year, we have |
| 0:19.7 | picked three incredible novels to do our sacred reading with, The |
| 0:23.1 | Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler, Station 11 by Emily St. Mandel, and Women |
| 0:29.4 | Talking by Miriam Taves. |
| 0:31.5 | Wow. |
| 0:32.1 | And we are going to be talking about the theme of identity. |
| 0:35.3 | And this class is just, Caspar, it's one of the things I'm most proud of |
| 0:39.2 | having co-designed. You know, we do sacred reading with me, and then Mauricio Bruce does |
| 0:45.4 | analysis and self-exploration based on the books and then one-on-one chaplaincy with everyone. And then |
| 0:50.8 | we end with Michaela Bly, helping everybody turn this into a story that they can tell so that there's like something really finite that they can take out as the lesson that they want to remember from the class. |
| 1:04.0 | And the class is all about using these, you know, spiritual technologies that we know work really well, sacred reading, community, |
| 1:12.5 | one-on-one chafflancy and storytelling in order to discern how you want to live your life |
| 1:17.0 | and what values you want to live up to. |
| 1:19.2 | And the thing that I'm proudest of is just how many people come back and do it again. |
| 1:23.3 | Like, we have three people out of 24 who just finished it and immediately signed up to do it again this year. |
| 1:30.3 | Whoa! |
| 1:31.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:31.7 | That's awesome. |
| 1:32.6 | It's a little bit like a sort of secular seminary. |
| 1:34.9 | Right. |
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