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Professor explains why he’s leaving Yale for Toronto as colleges react to Trump’s threats

PBS News Hour - Segments

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🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Princeton University said several dozen of its federal grants have been halted. It's just the latest Trump administration move targeting colleges. Partly in response, Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley announced he’s leaving not only his school, but the country, to teach at the University of Toronto. Stanley joined Amna Nawaz to discuss his decision. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

The Trump administration said yesterday it's reviewing about $9 billion in federal grants to Harvard,

0:06.7

citing the school's response to anti-Semitism. And today, Princeton said several dozen of its federal

0:12.0

grants had been halted. They are just the latest moves targeting colleges. Last week, Columbia agreed

0:17.9

to policy changes after the administration pulled $400 million

0:21.6

in federal funding.

0:23.6

Partly in response, Yale University philosophy professor Jason Stanley announced he's leaving

0:28.6

not only his school but the country to teach at the University of Toronto in Canada.

0:33.6

Stanley said he's making the move so he can, quote, raise his kids in a country that's not

0:38.4

tilting towards a fascist dictatorship. For more on his decision, Jason Stanley joins me now.

0:44.2

Professor Stanley, welcome to the News Hour. Thanks for joining us.

0:47.3

Thank you for having me off.

0:48.7

So you have authored two books on fascism. It's a topic you spend a lot of time studying.

0:53.9

Your decision to leave has been framed as you fleeing the U.S. It's a topic you spend a lot of time studying. Your decision to leave

0:55.0

has been framed as you fleeing the U.S. That's the word people are using. Is that how you see it?

1:01.3

No, but that has resonance with Jewish intellectuals fleeing Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

1:08.7

So it's kind of interesting to see the use of that word. I made my

1:14.0

decision for both political reasons and personal reasons. It's clear to me that it's time to go for

1:22.8

an academic and a critic of the Trump administration, who has the privilege to have an opportunity

1:29.1

to leave. We've seen universities come under attack of this administration. Is this just your

1:34.9

decision? Is it just about what you've seen happening at universities and colleges?

1:39.3

Well, that was what sealed it. I had an offer from the University of Toronto and had gone back and forth about the

1:46.2

offer. I had thought I'd assigned like 50% probability to taking it, but when Columbia folded,

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