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Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kilmageau.

There's some merit, he says, and she's state intervention if compared to the United States.

I'm a free market believer.

But now China has better roads, better highways, better airports, better ports, better bridges.

Then the United States, a country which does only when I first arrived in 1980s with this infrastructure.

But now China has a better infrastructure.

So there is a role for the government to play.

Yeah, and we put some money into it and we could have put some money more into it.

And a lot of state level, they should do it and modernise it.

I know it's happening.

But I just think if you talk about the bill back better plan, it's not affordable and sustainable because you got to pick the right time to do it.

Prior to 9-11, prior to the pandemic, it's almost like 9-11.

Prior to the pandemic, I would think so.

You know, we were getting there where we had so much, we were good towards the surplus.

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