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Hi, I'm Alan Olda, and this is Clear and Vivid, Conversations about Connecting and Communicating.

Welcome to a preview of what our fifth season will be like.

I'm sitting here with my producer, Graham Chet, and our associate producer, Sarah Chase,

Hi, Graham. Hi, Sarah. Hi, Alan. Hi.

So we're going to play you a little bit of some of the shows coming up and talk about

our reactions to them and what we felt and learned in those interviews and those conversations.

First one I want to play for you is the first show of the fifth season, which is a wonderful

conversation I had with Melinda Gates. Of course, Melinda is partners with her husband,

Bill Gates, in the largest foundation in the world. They are successful at what they do.

I think to a great extent because they follow a theme that we cover every show on this podcast,

which is listening. They listen to the people they want to help, and they find out what

they really need, how they can really be helpful, not how they think they can be helpful,

but how they really can be helpful. Melinda goes out and lives among the people very often,

learns from their daily life what's important to them and how she can, and the foundation

can be helpful. Can we play a little bit from our conversation with Melinda?

Yeah, she's talking about time that she's spent with her daughter, actually, in Tanzania,

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