Hey, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to the astrology podcast. In this episode I'm talking with Dr. Jose Manuel Redondo, and we're going to be talking about the fifth century philosopher Proclis, who was also an astrologer or somebody that integrated astrology into platonic philosophy as well as his work in theory.

So hey, welcome to the show.

Chris, thank you.

Yeah, thank you so much for joining me today.

Yeah, we've been talking about doing this episode for a number of years

and we actually met at an astrology conference years ago I think

NCGR conference wasn't it? Yeah that's right in Baltimore. Yeah the Baltimore conference

so this has been a long time in coming. In the meantime, you have been doing work in this field and you specifically did a PhD dissertation in 2015 on Proclis and his work in Theurgy, which touched on some of its connections with

astrology, right?

Yes, I've been working on late antiquity, platonism.

That's been my main focus of research, my work on research, academic research, that is.

Okay.

And prior to that, I think you said,

did you say at one point that you had studied

with Robert Zoller or what was your background in astrology?

Yeah, I started studying astrology pretty much at the same time I started studying philosophy.

And a couple of years later in a Yuak conference, I met Robert Soler who was friends with a teacher, with my teacher,

Lisaure.

So after that with my teacher, Lizle Sur.

So after that conference, I went to live

to a place upstate New York, which it happened to be the place where Robert was living.

So we developed a cloud relationship for a while,

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