Pride and Prejudice – Can patriotism be a force for good?

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 25 July 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Has our perception of what it is to be patriotic been skewed by the likes of angry protesters parading outside a refugee hotel in Essex? And can the idea of patriotism ever be reclaimed from furious far-right groups like Britain First? Plus, what’s the latest on the Brexit reset with the EU? Director of UK in a Changing Europe Anand Menon joins the panel to discuss. And in the Extra Bit for subscribers, we’re wondering if we’ll EVER be able to retire. Escape Routes: • Ros recommends Inter Alia at the National Theatre. • Matt has been watching Yellowstone on Netflix. • Hannah recommends Lush by Rochelle Dowden-Lord. • Anand recommends Caledonian Road by Andrew O’Hagan. Buy Lush or Caledonian Road through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Oh God, What Now? by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Follow us on BlueSky Back us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with Hannah Fearn, and Matt Green. Audio Production by Tom Taylor & Robin Leeburn. Music by Cornershop. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Like the podcast, but not the adverts.
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0:10.0	I've ruled out uni because I want to live at home.
0:12.4	I've ruled out uni because I want to earn money.
0:15.7	I've ruled out uni because of my grades.
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0:38.3	The future is open.
0:50.4	Hello and welcome to Oh God What Now.
0:53.1	I'm Ros Taylor.
1:13.1	On today's show, can patriotism ever be part of the answer to Britain's malaise? And what can we be proud about today? Plus, what's happened to the EU reset? We're excited, but where's the beef? Anand Menon fills us in. And in the extra bit for supporters, we're wondering if we'll ever be able to retire. Let's meet today's panel. First, it's journalists specialising in social affairs, Hannah Fern. Hello, Hannah.
1:19.1	Hi, Ross. Two city traders have had their convictions for rigging rates quashed by the Supreme Court.
1:26.2	This was a big miscarriage of justice, wasn't it?
1:29.0	Well, these guys have always maintained that in their convictions that they were the full guys
1:36.2	for what was basically ordinary behaviour in the city that had then become criminalised because
1:42.4	of a political move against the international money markets
1:45.6	during a time of financial crisis. What has been found this week essentially is that the convictions
1:53.3	were unsafe legally. That Hayes, who was 45 and has spent over half a decade in prison for rigging LIBOR,
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