This is John Batchel, conversation with Noam Redan of the Washington Institute, who studies energy policy,

especially the disruption of the Houthis firing rockets into traffic through the Red Sea,

asking what is to be done. Noam has a recommendation, but she adds a twist at the end.

Here's Noam about what is to be done with the Houthis, resupplied by Iran and other bad actors,

and a disruption in world global traffic.

This is not local.

This is global.

More of this tonight.

I cannot say yes or no. It's like it's complex.

Yes, they are being supported by Iran to cut off all the roots. It will definitely be a complicated mission. We are already seeing how Iran also supports other armed groups in the region, right? Lebanon. You have also armed groups in Iraq. And of course, like Israel in Lebanon, for instance, is striking sites that belong to Hezbollah. But it will take you some time to reduce their military hardware. And the same, in my opinion, the same goes for Yemen. It will take you some time to reduce their military hardware. In my opinion, the same goes for Yemen.

It will take you some time to do that.

But at the same time, you also need talks.

You need to talk to those who are also supporting such groups in the region.

Military solution is on the table, but also you need a diplomatic one.