This is John Bachelor, conversation with Gregory Coppley, Defense and Foreign Affairs,

about apocalyptic thinking in the 20th and 21st century by men who are understood as authoritarian as dictators,

and their apocalyptic thinking includes

what is a dream for them, a vision for them,

of transforming everything, taking over everything, sometimes understood

as globalism.

What opposes this, what resists this, is nationalism, the three examples that Gregory offers. Stalin, for the

Soviets, to conquer the world, the revolution everywhere. Hitler for the Germans not to secure Germany, to take land, conquer, dominate

Europe, onto the world, and Shijin Ping to conquer outside India of

border land South China Sea to take over the whole world to be the civilization that

dominate.

Apocalypse thinking by three men who have momentum in their times.

And Greger explains why that's important what is have momentum in their times.

And Gregory explains why that's important, what it means.

How difficult it is to stop momentum.

Here's Gregory Coppley introducing momentum for the authoritarians, the 20th and 21st century.

More of this later, thank you.

Yes, absolutely correct.

It's based on momentum and in fact it's based how you determine who's on your side is you have

people mouthing irrational slogans and the like simply to prove that they're on board and on the team and what

we saw for example in the 1930s was that the New York Times would not criticize in support of the

in the Nazi movement or not even in support of the Jewish people who

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