Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Here's a dangerous question for you.

If you're a female, is the reason why you didn't want to be a truck driver because you are female?

And if you're a male, is the reason why you don't want to be a kindergarten teacher because you're male.

Do males and females differ in biological ways, in deeper ways than culture, in the things that they're interested in?

This has become a somewhat fashionable idea.

It explains certain strands of the new media ecosystem from Jordan Peterson to potentially

even Andrew Tate, but certainly to the manosphere of the Joe Rogans of the world. And it's a

questionable intuition, like where the biology and the culture meet in an explanation of why the

gender roles are split the way they are between

housework and looking after babies and being CEOs and being abalone fishermen.

I wanted to talk to somebody who actually spends her life studying the science of this stuff,

the biological differences, what we understand about our intuitions, about workplace inequalities,

and whether or not there is such a thing as the patriarchy that is still assisting in organizing

our social structures and our workplace arrangements and our households in a way that is deleterious

to women's interests. Professor Cordelia Fine certainly thinks so. So she and I have a really

constructive chat about exactly that. She's one of the most notable Australian academics in this field.

Well, I say Australian. She was raised in Edinburgh and born in Canada, but we'll have her. We'll

have her. We like doing that. She studied psychology at Oxford University. She got her

master's in philosophy from Cambridge University. You might have heard of them, Oxford and Cambridge.

She got a PhD in psychology from University College London. Never heard of that dump.

And she has fascinating ideas about whether or not differences in men's and women's jobs and

housework and play and childcare

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