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*PREVIEW* We Don’t Need No Edumacation ft Amelia Horgan

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TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2021

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Amelia Horgan (@AmeliaHorgan), author of Lost in Work and striking member of the UK’s higher education Union (UCU) talks about the decade of strikes in the sector, and why the demands are connected to a top level reimagining of what education can be. But first, we look at a few apparently unrelated goings on in Britain and peer into our scrying bowl to look at the outlines of this country’s political future. Buy Amelia's book here! https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745340913/lost-in-work/ Get the whole thing on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59689159 *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

A lot of tech libertarians who are now moving to Miami to set up like online universities, like say, is that like, yeah, you should have like universities in which like feedback is because you have like instant feedback right um and this

0:26.1

kind of idea that you can measure value for education or value for like you know time or whatever

0:31.8

based on like in the in the same metrics of you know basically like a social media platform

0:36.5

in which, like,

0:42.4

you can kind of see, uh, you can, you can, you can see quote results in real time. Now, obviously we sort of know that like, that's bullshit and that's like really fucking

0:46.3

dystopian. And we also sort of know that the education being incentivized by those people

0:50.2

tend to be things like computer programming that but just happens to be tailored for the specific

0:56.2

tech jobs that like they happen to be like senior managers or owners of. But it feels to me like,

1:01.5

yeah, this is exactly kind of when like the government, when like successive governments,

1:05.5

but especially like conservative government, like talks about like value for education, especially

1:09.8

when like fees have sort of gone up. They went up when I was, uh, when I went to, talks about, like, value for education, especially when, like, fees have

1:11.6

sort of gone up. They went up when I was, uh, when I went to university in 2010, they were

1:16.9

obviously went up again, like they kind of tripled in fees afterwards. Um, wait, no, no,

1:21.4

they, the fee triple happened. Uh, it was announced when I went to university, but that would

1:25.4

happen like for, uh, for younger people. But anyway, like when the,

1:28.3

when the fees like tripled, that the argument being made was like,

1:31.5

yeah, the value for money metric is going to be better as a result of this because

1:35.5

not only will you have consumers who make better decisions over like what

1:40.5

courses they take, i.e. ones that are like much more linked to again,

1:43.6

like, you know, the perpetuating managerial economy.

1:47.6

They'll also mean that they'll demand more from like, you know,

1:50.3

from their education.

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