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PREVIEW: WAR CRIMES: FIREBOMBING: Professor Gary Bass, author of "Judgment at Tokyo," discusses George Kennan's post-surrender analysis of Japan: that the country should be restored as an Asian power and U.S. ally, largely because Chiang Kai-shek's Nation

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 30 November 2024

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: WAR CRIMES: FIREBOMBING: Professor Gary Bass, author of "Judgment at Tokyo," discusses George Kennan's post-surrender analysis of Japan: that the country should be restored as an Asian power and U.S. ally, largely because Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists in China were proving unreliable in their civil war against Soviet-backed Maoist forces. More next month.

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0:00.0

This is John Batchuk. Conversation with Professor Gary Bass, his book, Judgment at Tokyo.

0:07.1

This is the war crimes trials of the Japanese officials and military officers that followed the Second War's conclusion in 45.

0:16.9

Trials started in 46 into 47.

0:20.8

Judgment at Tokyo, World War II, on trial and the making of a modern Asia,

0:26.2

including the observation by the professor in the book,

0:29.5

and he comments here that George Kennan, the gifted diplomat working at the time in the State Department,

0:36.6

not only wrote the long telegram about

0:38.6

containing the Soviet aggression, but also wrote recommending that Japan be considered a major ally

0:49.2

of the United States following the war, that Japan be empowered to reorganize itself along

0:57.7

democratic lines and enter into the industrial age again. Japan, not China. China is seen by

1:06.4

George Cannon as a possible, but not necessarily predictable power.

1:12.5

We see the results today.

1:15.1

The People's Republic of China is a product of aggression and predation,

1:20.2

much like the Soviet Union in 1948 in the start of the Cold War,

1:26.5

whereas Japan is seen as a major ally of the United States

1:29.9

and its allies and the bulwark of a defense against China's aggression in East Asia. Japan.

1:39.8

Hard to see during the time of the prosecution of Japan for launching a war at Pearl Harbor.

1:47.7

But here is the professor to explain what George Kennan saw.

1:53.2

Much more of this next month.

1:55.8

No, I think that's exactly right.

1:58.2

And that's a huge shift in American policy, that American policy

2:03.0

throughout World War II is building up the Republic of China under the nationalists,

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