Hey, everyone, this is The Last Laugh. I'm Matt Wilstein from The Daily Beast, and before comedian W. Kamau Bell returns to the podcast next week, I want to share a little preview of our conversation with all of you.

Kamau, who also hosts CNN's United Shades of America,

is about to premiere his bombshell four-part documentary We Need to Talk About Cosby on Showtime this

coming Sunday. So it was just really exciting to catch him at this moment right before a project

that he has been secretly working on for years

is going to finally be seen by the rest of the world. I asked him how he's feeling right now, and his

answer revealed how big of a risk he still believes he is taking by exposing the heinous crimes

of his childhood hero. So yeah, I mean, it's just, it's kind of a crazy moment for you.

So how are you feeling?

I mean, I will give myself credit for this.

I'm a big catastrophizer.

If that's like, I think of like all, you know,

I learned from the movie Ghost Dog with Forrest Whitaker

that you have to imagine your worst defeat. So, you know,

I was prepared for it to be, you know, I understand that it's divisive just by nature, but also it's

not, I don't think when you watch it, it is as divisive as you think it might be. But while it still

holds a very strong viewpoint, but, you know, it's just, I know the people who are the most,

the fiercest critics of it, I was always sure were people who were never going to watch it. So,

you know, that's where I'm, I feel like I see a lot of people who love it and a lot of people

who hate it who I'm very clear, haven't seen it. Yeah. Well, as we're talking, no one's really, very few people have gotten a chance to see it. So anyone kind of coming at you on social media has pretty much not seen it. Yeah. And I can,

and be clear, you can watch it and hate it. That's, I accept that. But it's just the idea that

like I came from a lot of them like, I was just always aware, rare from when we were working

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