This is John Bachelor, a conversation with my colleague Colonel Jeff McCausen and the United States Army retired artillery men, a West Pointer.

Also visiting Professor Dickinson College,

Remembering William Callie, now gone at 80 years old,

William Callie, the man, one man convicted of the Milai Massacre of 1968, March of 1968, hundreds of innocent

men, women, senior, very old men, and children were massacred by elements of two companies one of them the

American division Jeff from members hearing about it at when he was at West Jeff remembers also the commandant who was involved in the allegations and broken because of it. Colonel Jeff McCausen, remembering the Meli Massacre of 1968, which was revealed in 1969 by the journalist Seymour Hershey.

It was another one of those turning points in the Vietnam War

in which the public already doubtful turned anti-war, deeply anti-war.

Colonel Jeff McCausen, CBS News, remembering more of this tonight.

Well, memories that John are very distinct in that when we immediately learned about that we like

anyone else were very very shocked by it and I was in West Point of course for

the killings at Kent State that was my period of time as a cadet. One of the people that was charged in additional

to Cali for this particular massacre was Lieutenant General Sam Koster. The Koster was the superintendent at West Point and as a major general had been the

commanding officer of the American division. So Koster's involvement while obviously

was not direct in the massacre at me lie he was part of the cover up because it became quickly learned as the investigation

ensued which really didn't begin until about a year and a half until after the incident.

That in fact, it had been covered up because the senior leadership, the division was very widely aware of all this.

Charlie Company had been involved in search and destroy operations in that area in Vietnam.

They'd suffered a large number of casualties, a lot due to Pungy Stakes, landmines, trip wires, etc.

So it took on the attitude of any Vietnamese was offered. landmines, trip wires, etc.

So it took on the attitude of any Vietnamese

was obviously a Viet Cong,

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