This is John Bachelor, a conversation with the author James Holland reflecting on his research and his writing of the book Brothers in Arms.

This is the story of one unit, one particular unit in the British Army, the Sherwood Rangers, a

legendary unit. It was a cavalry unit in 1939 and converted to armor at the beginning of the Second War.

We follow it from its landing at Normandy all the way to the German surrender. And the word here is relentlessness. On and on,

relentlessness, clearing the west of the Rhine. James Holland explains what it's

like to read their diaries and follow their efforts.

And now, coming winter, they look for an end of the war and it doesn't come.

It's in the spring.

It looked for an end of the war and it doesn't come.

James Holland, brothers in arms, one legendary tank regiment's bloody war from D-Day to V-E-Day.

More of this tonight.

The lead operation of which the show would range it apart.

And it's just, you know, it's just...

What do you get, John, is just this sort of mounting sense of the relentlessness of it.

I mean, we've touched on a, on of three and crossing the newaro and and gale but but that's only half of it. I mean there's a whole lot of other operations that the show

out of range are involved in that we haven't mentioned because of time and all the rest of it.

It's just relentless and I think that's the thing that really struck me when I was doing

this work and an operation variable was a major,

and it's very destructive and lots of people get hurt and killed

and yet somehow they just keep going.

And the other thing that's remarkable about the show

of Rangers, they never seem to lose sight of their humanity,

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