This is John Bachelor, conversation with Brad Bowman of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy

about preparing the Indo-Pacific for the Chinese attack on Taiwan,

which will necessarily mean that the attack will be projected under Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia, as far as Australia.

You can assume nothing.

Preparing for this is the Air Force is thinking now we have to have secondary and

tertiary fields. The first dial-in chain will be penetrated. We need to fall back.

Bases in Australia, bases in places they are not expected,

because the first reign of missiles

will take out the airfields in Guam

and the ones that are well known in Luzon,

maybe even Australia.

The question I ask Brad is when do they have a number.

His answer is blunt.

Preparing for war is the way to keep the peace say the Romans more of this tonight we don't know

John and that's what gives me a sense of urgency anyone who tells you that they know when aggression could start

in the Pacific, I don't think they know what they're talking about.

So we have to assume that it could come sooner rather than later,

and that's why we have to have a sense of urgency in getting

after these issues and building on the positive progress that we've seen in recent years.