This is John Bachelor. Speaking with colleague Anatole Leaven of the Quincy Institute for Responsible

Statecraft, we look at the possibility of NATO, rearming or arming for the first time,

pieces through strength.

However, Anatole questions, what does that mean?

What does it mean to prepare for war?

What war?

Where?

And also, the negotiations that do not exist speculatively turn on the

maximalist demand by Ukraine, Russia out of Crimea of the Danbas, and the maximalist terms for the Russians include

all of Novoricea and turning the rump Ukraine into a neutral state that can be controlled.

Both maximalist positions are anticipated to be rejected.

Therefore, how does NATO regard this war, to lose it or to win it?

And then Anatole entertains winning it.

The fastest route to nuclear annihilation, concludes here's Anatole to explain

the Maximus position and the road not taken yet

Well the thing is that nobody seems to understand or know or even it appears seriously to have thought about what peace through

strength actually means.

Now, if it means unsticking US aid

and increasing European aid,

although European military aid,

you know, is going to be very limited in the short term because we simply don't have it through

years and years of underfunding our military.

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