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listening. Terms apply. This is John Batchel, conversation with Aaron Zelen of the Washington

Institute about Abu Mohammed Al Jalani, the leader of the rebel-slash-jihadist

group breaking out of Idlib, taking over Aleppo now Homa, driving on Damascus, asking Aaron,

is Jolani able to think of himself as the new king of Syria.

Is he driving on dislodging Assad?

Is that possible?

The answer is straightforward.

Here's Aaron Zelen on the ambitions of Aba Muhammad al-Jolani.

More of this tonight.

Yes, very much so. They've been talking about taking Damascus for years now, and he is a charismatic leader of this movement, and he sees

himself as sort of the future leader of Syria, however they describe it. And he could potentially

be the new leader if the regime does fall.

Still a little skeptical that that might happen.

But anything is possible now that we've seen these advancements so quickly in the last week.